Friday, October 12, 2007

Power of the veto

Read the following article and respond to it by answering the following questions. What do you think the president should have done and why? How much responsability should the government take in providing health care?

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/opinion/sfl-forum12schipnboct12,0,7105857.story

16 comments:

Pam Dubey said...

it's obvious that the author of this article doesn't agree with the bill. i think the president should have passed the bill as a law. i feel this way because i don't see a lot of wrong in raising the price of tobacco products to help out a lot of children and their families. as far as the losing sales and having more robberies go, the government has been raising the price of tobacco over the years and people still buy it. i don't see why this change would make them stop. i feel this bill makes perfect sense because the government should be in charge of health care and making sure that all families have it even if they can't afford it.

Jen Abjornson said...

I personally think the president should have passed the bill. Even though the taxes or prices on tobacco products would go up, more families with children would get insurance. This bill could have helped so many people. The robberies and less sales shouldn't stop the government from passing this bill. The prices on everything, not just tobacco products, have gone up and people still need to buy them. So, the former customers would most likely still buy the products. The robbery rate would also probably be the same, because like I said everything is going up lately so it would be nothing different. Also, the government should take full responsibility when it comes to providing health care. They are here to help the people and that is exactly what they should do.

edaniels-campbell said...

I do think that the government should have some say when it comes to Health Care. I think that the less monthly income you get, the more the government should have to help your family. If you have plenty of money to spare and it costs you practically nothing compared to your income, the government should keep out of it. The reason they are getting all bent out of shape about it is because what about the families that own tobacco farms that can't afford to keep their farm anymore because the tobacco companies won't take higher priced tobacco. I know that my grandparent's had to sell their tobacco farm to keep from going bankrupt.

Ian C said...
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Ian C said...

I think the president made the right desicion. I think the bill should get passed, but in a different way. The auther was right, this would probobly turn into another whisky rebellion but with tobacco. Raising the prices may be a good way but that much all at once would make people angry. I think it should be a gradual increase so people can get used to it. This bill really needs to be passed one way or another. Government shoiuld play a role in health care to the people that can't afford it. But if a family can afford it all on their own no problom then they should leave them alone.

emily prescott said...

I think that the president made the right decision from an economic stand-point. Although I don't think that tobacco products should be overly important to our nation, the manufacturing and selling of these products does impact many people's lives. I think that if the funding was available for the legislation, it should have been passed. I think that the government should hold some responsibility for providing healthcare. I think that the they should regulate healthcare by making it available to everyone for a reasonable amount of money.

Anonymous said...

I think that President Bush's descision to veto this bill was a bad one. Healthcare becomes the responsibility of our government when there are any children anywhere who don't have it. The author of the bill pointed out that the bill would have raised taxes for "hardworking Americans"- what about the millions of children that it would have provided healthcare for? Because SCHIP didn't get more money, it will have to take coverage AWAY from children it already provides it to. The author says that the bill will put a strain on small buisnesses that sell tobacco and tobacco farms. Cancer related to tobacco use is one of the most common causes of death among Americans- and we pay taxes to give healthcare to people dealing with THAT. Like it or not, paying taxes is something we need to do. Roads, the army, space technology, scientific research libraries, land conservation- these things don't come for free. I think that the president's power for veto should only be used for something he thinks is completely and totally immoral. And I don't think that there's anything immoral about providing healthcare to children.

adambruoso said...

I think that the President shouldn't have vetoed the bill because it would help many families that can't afford health care by themsevles. I think it would be a good thing if they raised the taxes on tobacco products because maybe not as many people would get hooked on tobacco. I understand that this tobacco production does effect many people but people's lives but I think the families would benefit more.

Anonymous said...

I agree with what Ian said, I dont think that they should raise the taxes at such a fast right. There most likely will be an upset, but if the gov't would raise taxes at a slower rate, people either wouldnt notice as much or they would be able to gradually get used to it. I think that it was a good thing to veto the bill, but I think that it should be reintroduced later with some changes.

James Fisher said...

The president should not have vetoed this bill. It would have provided healthcare to millions of children. Instead of citing the fact that it had loop holes in it that allowed for children whos familys could afford private health care as a reason for the veto he should have sent it back to congress to have it changed.
The government should provide health care for all of its children no matter what economic class they fall into.
Instead of throwing money away over seas use it to make USA a better place.

Lindsay Doell said...

This article is definitely against the bill. I think that President Bush should have passed the bill so it could become a law because it is a good idea that families that can't afford healthcare still have access to it because everyone should be able to see a doctor or a dentist or whoever you need to see in order to be healthy and just because you can't afford it doesn't mean that you shouldn't be able to have it. But the bad thing to this is the raising of taxes because I don't think that people would like that too much. And I agree with Pam because just because you raise the price of tobacco doesn't mean people will stop buying it. I mean the people are addicted to it so obviously they are going to keep buying it no matter how much it costs. Also the government has a big responsibility in providing health care because aren't they here for the "people" so therefore they should do what they can for the "people"!

TBarbeau said...

THe bill should have defiantly been passed. An increase in the tobacco tax would end up increasing the overall health in the United States by an exponential amount. Think of all the research we do as a country on the effects of second hand smoke and the cancer rate. Not only would this bill help the less fortunate and poor people of america in staying healthy it would help the whole country

TReidy said...
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TReidy said...

I'm suprised that Congress didn't overrride Bush's veto. This bill could have helped millions of americans with... healthcare. If this bill was passed, then people wouldn't hate Bush AS much. Healthcare in this country is at an all time low, and this would have been one of the best moves that would have been made in this administration aside from all the firings and "quittings".

Anonymous said...

i think the bill should have been passed because if you make lots of taxes on tabacco, then people would buy it less. if people buy it less, then they will be healthier and it would be easier to quit. it would help poor people have more money to buy food instead of ciggs

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